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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, meant to post this link as well:

http://dearfamousasshole.blogspot.com/2008/07/blognigger-guest-post-whoopi-goldberg.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, meant to post this link as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://dearfamousasshole.blogspot.com/2008/07/blognigger-guest-post-whoopi-goldberg.html" rel="nofollow">http://dearfamousasshole.blogspot.com/2008/07/blognigger-guest-post-whoopi-goldberg.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll help you out, Kate!

Wow, I never thought I&#039;d see the View on TGW. Dave, you&#039;re full of surprises.

So interesting, A White Bear, what you said about how much people hate having their privilege pointed out to them. I can&#039;t tell you how many conversations I&#039;ve had with otherwise kind, sensitive people that never led to mutual understanding because those people were very uncomfortable with that idea. 

I&#039;m Mexican-American, which always casts these conversations a little grayer (or brownish?) -- it turns into &quot;who has suffered more?&quot; as we start pulling out our oppression cred cards. What a stupid game, but I haven&#039;t yet figured out a better way to have a conversation about my ethnic background and why it&#039;s made me such an untrusting, introverted, snarky individual. (AND WHY I&#039;M TOTALLY JUSTIFIED IN BEING THAT WAY! Just kidding. Sort of.)

Anyway, my only impressions of the View have come from out-of-context statements by Hassleback and Baba Wawa about nursing. They came off as insufferably backwards, prude, misinformed, idiotic I&#039;ve never wanted to see the show. But now I feel like I&#039;m missing out on Whoopie golden moments.

So here&#039;s something somewhat related -- this blog is written by a guy who lives in Park Slope. He posted a bit about the show:

http://www.blognigger.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll help you out, Kate!</p>
<p>Wow, I never thought I&#8217;d see the View on TGW. Dave, you&#8217;re full of surprises.</p>
<p>So interesting, A White Bear, what you said about how much people hate having their privilege pointed out to them. I can&#8217;t tell you how many conversations I&#8217;ve had with otherwise kind, sensitive people that never led to mutual understanding because those people were very uncomfortable with that idea. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m Mexican-American, which always casts these conversations a little grayer (or brownish?) &#8212; it turns into &#8220;who has suffered more?&#8221; as we start pulling out our oppression cred cards. What a stupid game, but I haven&#8217;t yet figured out a better way to have a conversation about my ethnic background and why it&#8217;s made me such an untrusting, introverted, snarky individual. (AND WHY I&#8217;M TOTALLY JUSTIFIED IN BEING THAT WAY! Just kidding. Sort of.)</p>
<p>Anyway, my only impressions of the View have come from out-of-context statements by Hassleback and Baba Wawa about nursing. They came off as insufferably backwards, prude, misinformed, idiotic I&#8217;ve never wanted to see the show. But now I feel like I&#8217;m missing out on Whoopie golden moments.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s something somewhat related &#8212; this blog is written by a guy who lives in Park Slope. He posted a bit about the show:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blognigger.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blognigger.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate the Great</title>
		<link>http://www.greatwhatsit.com/archives/2613#comment-56668</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate the Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I often the last comment? Is it because I read this right before I go to bed? It makes me feel sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I often the last comment? Is it because I read this right before I go to bed? It makes me feel sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate the Great</title>
		<link>http://www.greatwhatsit.com/archives/2613#comment-56650</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate the Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of that video is lost in those female rules of conversation. These standards (however loose they are) work in the coffeehouse, but they don&#039;t translate well to video. As an outsider listening to the conversation, as opposed to sitting in the circle, I got lost several times. 

I like Obama. I like that he reminds me of the tiny bit of racism in me because I need to be reminded of it to work on getting rid of it. I&#039;m not going to pretend to have a coherent opinion about the N word or how it&#039;s used in our society or what the status of blacks as a race is today.  I do know that Whoopi is the strongest voice in this conversation, and I like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of that video is lost in those female rules of conversation. These standards (however loose they are) work in the coffeehouse, but they don&#8217;t translate well to video. As an outsider listening to the conversation, as opposed to sitting in the circle, I got lost several times. </p>
<p>I like Obama. I like that he reminds me of the tiny bit of racism in me because I need to be reminded of it to work on getting rid of it. I&#8217;m not going to pretend to have a coherent opinion about the N word or how it&#8217;s used in our society or what the status of blacks as a race is today.  I do know that Whoopi is the strongest voice in this conversation, and I like that.</p>
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		<title>By: A White Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>A White Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not sure what to &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; about it, of course. While teaching, I&#039;ve heard students casually use certain kinds of hate speech against their own group in a joking way, and while I&#039;m really glad they don&#039;t feel that language is oppressive enough to treat it as especially hurtful, I&#039;m pretty sure there are other members of that group in the room who don&#039;t feel it as being so casual. 

This summer, one of my students was talking about another professor during the break, and being really casual about talking about his Jewishness, like, &quot;I forget his name; it was something really Jewish. I hate him.&quot; I happened to know this student was Jewish, but doesn&#039;t signify as Jewish publicly, so no one else knew. And there were other students in the room who were Orthodox, and probably a lot more used to hearing stuff like that in anti-Semitic contexts than the guy who said it. One of those students kind of looked at me like, &quot;Huh?&quot;

Do I step in and stop a conversation among students and say something self-righteous about how &quot;We don&#039;t identify &#039;names&#039; as Jewish in this room&quot;? Or do I let it go and pretend I didn&#039;t hear it? Do I pull the &quot;Huh?&quot; student aside and tell her, &quot;Oh, it&#039;s alright; he&#039;s Jewish too!&quot; (which argument I don&#039;t even buy, myself)? Do I pull aside the guy who made the comment and privately discuss it with him? 

As a teacher, it is sort of my job to be a bit neurotically sensitive about these things. Luckily, as an individual citizen, it&#039;s usually not my right to step in unless there&#039;s an obvious intent to cause harm. In this particular case, I let it go--we talked a lot about anti-Semitism in the book we were reading at the time, and I felt my views were known--but I don&#039;t know that I did the right thing, if there even is a right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not sure what to <em>do</em> about it, of course. While teaching, I&#8217;ve heard students casually use certain kinds of hate speech against their own group in a joking way, and while I&#8217;m really glad they don&#8217;t feel that language is oppressive enough to treat it as especially hurtful, I&#8217;m pretty sure there are other members of that group in the room who don&#8217;t feel it as being so casual. </p>
<p>This summer, one of my students was talking about another professor during the break, and being really casual about talking about his Jewishness, like, &#8220;I forget his name; it was something really Jewish. I hate him.&#8221; I happened to know this student was Jewish, but doesn&#8217;t signify as Jewish publicly, so no one else knew. And there were other students in the room who were Orthodox, and probably a lot more used to hearing stuff like that in anti-Semitic contexts than the guy who said it. One of those students kind of looked at me like, &#8220;Huh?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do I step in and stop a conversation among students and say something self-righteous about how &#8220;We don&#8217;t identify &#8216;names&#8217; as Jewish in this room&#8221;? Or do I let it go and pretend I didn&#8217;t hear it? Do I pull the &#8220;Huh?&#8221; student aside and tell her, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s alright; he&#8217;s Jewish too!&#8221; (which argument I don&#8217;t even buy, myself)? Do I pull aside the guy who made the comment and privately discuss it with him? </p>
<p>As a teacher, it is sort of my job to be a bit neurotically sensitive about these things. Luckily, as an individual citizen, it&#8217;s usually not my right to step in unless there&#8217;s an obvious intent to cause harm. In this particular case, I let it go&#8211;we talked a lot about anti-Semitism in the book we were reading at the time, and I felt my views were known&#8211;but I don&#8217;t know that I did the right thing, if there even is a right thing.</p>
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