Thursday playlist: murder, mayhem and very bad decisions
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008, under Death and Love and Thursday Playlists

When Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds recorded Murder Ballads in 1996, I thought it was scary but incomplete. He managed to capture the horror but not always the beauty of this folk genre. With respect to Nick, I have attempted to put together my own playlist from a collection I have assembled over many years. This group of songs was winnowed down from a first pass of about 60.

This music is going to be very difficult for some of you to listen to. For one thing the voices and styles are sometimes “old timey” and tinny, occasionally shrill and the Sixties artists are not always those considered Dylan-cool. My children call most of these songs “mom’s wailing music” and run out of the room clutching their ears. The other barrier will be the shockingly violent content: stabbings, drowning, lopped-off heads and so many bad, bad boyfriends. Why would such a seemingly nice woman be attracted to such messy music?

These songs are stark in their depictions of good and evil and life and death, but they are also subtle and deeply complex. They show people who long for love to save them or elevate them to a change in status and prosperity. Fate or betrayal rips this hope away and they are left with heartache and acrid clarity, sometimes in their last moments. These stories delve into the dark and sad places of my psyche, revealing timeless loneliness and primal connection.

The following is the order they were meant to be played, however my file is a bit messy as well.

  1. Bad Moon Rising/ Thea Gilmore
  2. Omie Wise/ Doc Watson
  3. Wind and Rain/ Gillian Welch
  4. Carry Me Home/ Hem
  5. Lady Margaret/ Cassie Franklin (From the film Cold Mountain)
  6. The Greenwood Sidie (The Cruel Mother)/ Ian and Sylvia
  7. Pretty Polly/ Jean Ritchie and Doc Watson
  8. Caleb Meyer/ Gillian Welch
  9. The Brown Girl/ Hedy West
  10. Mary Hamilton/ Joan Baez
  11. Wednesday 3 A.M./ Simon and Garfunkel
  12. The Jealous Lover/ Ian and Sylvia
  13. Polly Von/ Peter, Paul and Mary
  14. The Rooster Moans/ Iron and Wine
  15. Bohemian Rhapsody/ Queen
  16. Tom Dooley/ Snakefarm
  17. Ramblin’ Boy/ Tom Paxton
  18. Pretty Saro/ Iris Dement
  19. Not While I’m Around/ From Sweeny Todd (1979)

Liner notes:

  1. Folk music traditionally plays very loose with gender. Men sing as women and women sing as men, the story can be completely separate from the voice. Sometimes the gender of the protagonist was changed as the songs got passed along to the new generation. The resulting shifts can lead to interesting plot or theme changes when you compare different versions. As an example, this cover has a completely different feel when sung by a woman.
  2. Listen for the primary crime motivation about halfway through –- poor little Omie. These songs are rarely rushed; the storyteller has all the time in the world to layer in details.
  3. This time the perpetrator is the sister. Of course the dark one. Epilogues are common in murder ballads, either to show punishment or a haunting redemption such as this.
  4. I love this band. They somehow combine old and new with lush lyrics and instrumentation. This song hints of incest, patricide and long term abuse, but that’s just my interpretation. P.S. There is a weird space and tacked-on song at the end, just skip through.
  5. A ghost song. I have a million versions of this song –- it is one of my favorites –- but this soundtrack version has a nifty pig/blood verse. This is one of many 16th- and 17th-century broadside ballads brought to America by the English, Irish and especially the Scottish.
  6. An Appalachian Medea song with a creepy ending in which mom has a vision of psychotic regret.
  7. This song is not pretty in spite of the name. But the dread evoked by Polly’s increasing awareness is chilling. It is worth enduring the scratchy background.
  8. Finally the girl wins!
  9. If you only listen to one song, this is it. Murder ballads do not get any better than this. It is Shakespearean in scope. Hedy’s voice and 5-string banjo may take a minute to get used to and there are many, many verses, but hang in there. Also, don’t be put off by the term “brown girl.” This song dates back to the 17th century and is a statement on class not race. Elender is an aristocratic lady with a title but no wealth; she is characterized by the pale pallor of one who is kept inside. The “brown girl” is a commoner whose family has earned rather than inherited their money and land. The girl of lower social status is derisively reminded of her peasant past by associating her with the complexion of one who would work outside in the sun (the inverse of the tanned lady of leisure in today’s culture). Thomas’ mother would want him to marry money; the “brown girl’s” family would have wanted a title. It all ends badly anyway.
  10. So lovely, also about class. In this, the murderess is made noble by her own victimization and servitude. She faces her fate with grace and courage, clearly admired by the narrator.
  11. No one dies, but once again remorse is an important element in many of these songs.
  12. Accidental and devastating. Listen for the moral at the end, very useful.
  13. A similar story to the above except even more accidental. This is a nice example of vintage Peter, Paul and Mary long before their current PBS feel-good personae. Exquisite harmonies of voice and guitars and unexpected emotion.
  14. What happens when you kill your girlfriend, boys? You end up on this train. Not good.
  15. In this context, this song fits perfectly. Freddy can wail like the best of them.
  16. Snakefarm made just one album; a great mix of very old and new. They are doing exactly what the British Isles immigrants did once they got to America, making traditional old country stories relevant for their new context and instruments.
  17. This time the culprit is the Depression and “The Man.” The homoerotic/male friendship themes are unusual and heartbreaking.
  18. This is my favorite song of all time and I think Iris’ version is one of the best. It is not technically a murder ballad although love is lost. Once again she/he is kept from true love by class and the need for money. The sense of longing here is almost palpable. I also think that the gender switch gives this song added layers of meaning.
  19. Unrequited love, betrayal, buckets of blood and everyone dies at the end, why not a bit of Sondheim!
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  1.  
    March 27, 2008 | 8:09 am
     

    Almost everything came through in your file — for some reason I have two songs missing: the Hem song and the Ian and Sylvia song. I’ll try to get those on soulseek later today and add them manually. The m3u file also seemed to be missing, which is why the tracks don’t line up in the order you selected them.

    But these are small problems — and not the first time they’ve occurred with these Thursday playlists! More importantly — I finally have the Pandora (mostly) murder ballads mix I’ve wanted for many, many years.

    I’m taking it with me to the gym (I know, I know, but for some reason I can listen to just about anything at the gym) and I’ll report later. But for now I wanted to point to the felicitous fact that this list came up during the same week as the Samamidon interview. He has a version of “Pretty Saro” on his new album, though he just calls it Saro. You can listen to it here while you watch a little homemade video he created for it.

    This reminds me that the other day I was going to say that if I’d written that interview just for my friends, I’d have said that Samamidon is a perfect intersection of Pandora music and Jeremy music.

  2.  
    March 27, 2008 | 8:14 am
     

    The more official version of the video here.

  3.  
    PB
    March 27, 2008 | 8:21 am
     

    Bryan, the Samamidon “Saro” is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!
    There are a two main versions of this song - one probably came through North Carolina and one Kentucky - I have the version he is singing by Jean Richie and Pete Seeger, it is much softer and prettier than the Doc Watson/ Iris version I have included. Once again I am alway so knocked out by newer interpretations of this music - especially when they are sung with both respect and innovation. This guy gets the balance perfectly.

  4.  
    PB
    March 27, 2008 | 8:31 am
     

    By the way I tried in my lame non-m3u way to recopy the songs missing. You can add them to the mix here

  5.  
    March 27, 2008 | 9:05 am
     

    thanks, p — got those files. now for gym.

  6.  
    March 27, 2008 | 10:02 am
     

    I’m looking forward to listening to this. I think my iPod is about 1/3 depression, so some murder should fit right in.

    My old pedal steel teacher plays with Hem a lot; not sure if he’s an official member.

  7.  
    Rachel
    March 27, 2008 | 11:05 am
     

    Hooray, Pandora! I, like Bryan, am thrilled to be getting a mix culled from your fabled collection.

    I think I mentioned this to you once before, but Kristin Hersh recorded an album of traditional songs called “Murder, Misery, and Goodnight” that should be right up your alley.

  8.  
    PB
    March 27, 2008 | 11:39 am
     

    The best part of making this mix is to get new material!
    Thank you Bryan and Rachel.
    Keep it coming . . .

  9.  
    Tim
    March 27, 2008 | 12:13 pm
     

    Can’t wait to listen to this, Pandora! There are a good handful of songs and artists here I haven’t heard of, and I love learning about new music. I love that you sneak in Queen, too.

    My very favorite pretty and tender murder ballad is “Banks of the Ohio.” I first heard it as sung by Joan Baez on a record my parents had when I was a kid. The Greenbriar Boys sing harmonies on it. I swear murder never sounded so beautiful. If you haven’t heard this version, seek it out.

  10.  
    March 27, 2008 | 12:43 pm
     

    pb: really enjoyed this. wanted to mention that “the wind and the rain” (aka twa sisters) is the song sam amidon has recorded for the nico muhly record that comes out in may. it’s the one he performed while astride the fiberglass horse at the kitchen, apparently. that’s one hell of a song, though i think the climax of “the brown girl” may top it (no pun intended).

  11.  
    Tim
    March 27, 2008 | 1:19 pm
     

    Also, plus, too, Pandora, I think you’d like Tim Eriksen’s interpretations of ballads and folk songs. (Eriksen helped out on the Cold Mountain soundtrack, so you’ve probably heard him there.) He used to have a band called Cordelia’s Dad. They did traditional songs both in a preservationist mode and updated to rock out. I prefer the more traditional versions, but both are quite good. My favorite records of theirs are Comet and Spine. He also has a couple solo records that are very, very good.

    Of late, he has been making short videos of himself performing traditional songs in different outdoor settings. You can watch them on his YouTube channel. They are truly stunning, imho.

    You New Yorkers will especially enjoy this version of “Johnny O Johnny”, sung at the corner of 56th and 7th. (I know it’s midtown, but cut him some slack; he was scheduled to perform at Carnegie Hall that night.)

  12.  
    LT
    March 27, 2008 | 1:25 pm
     

    PB, I love me some old time traditionals– especially when sung by women. I agree, it changes the song. Check out our bicoastal pal Emily Lacy; she’s amazing. Watch her here and listen here.

    #6: Re: Hem. I took some mushrooms with a hem member while she was visiting L.A…Um, not too long ago. It was the first and last time we met, but damn we had a good time.

  13.  
    LT
    March 27, 2008 | 1:28 pm
     

    ps– emily will be playing at the Whitney on April 2.

  14.  
    PB
    March 27, 2008 | 2:01 pm
     

    Tim - I ended up editing Bank of Ohio only because of space. My version is just Joan singing and I agree that the Greenbriar Boys version is much prettier. What I love about the Ohio song is the utter self-awareness of the narrator - he is remorseful but almost matter of fact about his crime - like bummer, I just killed my girlfriend for a really stupid reason.

    LT - next time CALL ME.

  15.  
    Tuffie aka WB
    March 28, 2008 | 11:07 pm
     

    Dear readers of the this post:

    Patty Lupone does a better version of this song from the 2005 revival of the musical Sweeny Todd. But I agree that you need to always have a little Sondheim (and a little less Iris Dement ;-)

  16.  
    April 9, 2008 | 12:48 am
     

    Did you actually leave out the mother of all murder songs?!

    What will they think “on the bloody morning after”?

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