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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan, thank you so much for writing this piece I really really enjoyed. My grandma, who was everything in my life, recently passed away along with all of her nostalgia. Somehow she gave these contagious feelings of nostalgia to me and although regrettably enough, I do not feel strongly nostalgic about New York&#039;s past in particular, as I only lived there for a short period of time, I strangely feel nostalgic about many other things in life, which your post so beautifully described. Grandma taught me the old recipe for crapes (blini), which her grandma used (&quot;you have to make crapes that look like lace(tvoi blini dolgni bit&quot; kak ruchnoe krugevo),&quot; she used to say) and that&#039;s exactly how I make crapes today. She also decorated a Christmas tree the way her grandma did back in the mid 1800 and that&#039;s how I do it in 2008. When I got home from my trip to Moscow, I brought back all of her tree ornaments including a lot of chocolates, which she loved to hang on the Christmas tree. Some chocolates go back to 1910. There is this Italian song about Nostalgia which would absolutely give you goose bumps if you listen to it at a high enough volume. It reminds me of all the most beautiful things in life. Here is the link. Please listen to it at a high volume and enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKe2oP8JYNA&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, thank you so much for writing this piece I really really enjoyed. My grandma, who was everything in my life, recently passed away along with all of her nostalgia. Somehow she gave these contagious feelings of nostalgia to me and although regrettably enough, I do not feel strongly nostalgic about New York&#8217;s past in particular, as I only lived there for a short period of time, I strangely feel nostalgic about many other things in life, which your post so beautifully described. Grandma taught me the old recipe for crapes (blini), which her grandma used (&#8220;you have to make crapes that look like lace(tvoi blini dolgni bit&#8221; kak ruchnoe krugevo),&#8221; she used to say) and that&#8217;s exactly how I make crapes today. She also decorated a Christmas tree the way her grandma did back in the mid 1800 and that&#8217;s how I do it in 2008. When I got home from my trip to Moscow, I brought back all of her tree ornaments including a lot of chocolates, which she loved to hang on the Christmas tree. Some chocolates go back to 1910. There is this Italian song about Nostalgia which would absolutely give you goose bumps if you listen to it at a high enough volume. It reminds me of all the most beautiful things in life. Here is the link. Please listen to it at a high volume and enjoy.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKe2oP8JYNA&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKe2oP8JYNA&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bryan,

You might want to check out a song on Steve Earle&#039;s new record, &lt;i&gt;Washington Square Serenade&lt;/i&gt; for its expression of a tension between nostalgia and counternostalgia.  (Earle recently moved to the Village from Nashville.) 

The song is &quot;Down Here Below,&quot; and opens with an image of a red tail hawk circling over NYC, looking for breakfast.  The bird settles on a building and looks up and down Fifth Ave. &quot;from the top of the food chain&quot; and says to himself, &quot;God, I love this town.&quot;

After the chorus, comes this

&lt;i&gt;I saw Joe Mitchell`s ghost on a downtown `A` train
He just rides on forever now that the Fulton fish market`s shut down
He said `they ain`t never gonna get that smell out of the water
I don`t give a damn how much of that new money they burn`

Now hell`s kitchen`s Clinton and the bowery`s Nolita
And the east village`s creepin` `cross the Williamsburg bridge
And hey, whatever happened to alphabet city?
Ain`t no place left in this town that a poor boy can go&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a lot to parse here, because it&#039;s hard to say (from my perspective) where this song falls along the divide you have set up.  The image of the hawk suggests a deeper natural order that simultaneously defies and reinforces the human order.  Just like the food chain in nature, there&#039;s an economic food chain, but it exists independently and in spite of the city.  The hawks will outlive any changes in real estate prices.

The invocation of Joe Mitchell (a &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt; writer who glorified &#039;old NY&#039; in articles about McSorley&#039;s and the fish market in the 1940s) as a ghost on the subway is interesting, too.  Mitchell is gone in body, but not spirit, and the ghost declares the same for the fish market.  

From what seems to be counternostalgic, the song moves into listing the name changes brought on by real estate agents and claims that there&#039;s no place left for the poor in NYC, seemingly flipping over to an expression of nostalgia.

Despite this, Earle states in the liner notes, &quot;The city hasn&#039;t changed as much as real estate agents would have you believe.&quot;

Anyway, I just thought of you and this post when I heard this song for the first time last night and thought you might want to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bryan,</p>
<p>You might want to check out a song on Steve Earle&#8217;s new record, <i>Washington Square Serenade</i> for its expression of a tension between nostalgia and counternostalgia.  (Earle recently moved to the Village from Nashville.) </p>
<p>The song is &#8220;Down Here Below,&#8221; and opens with an image of a red tail hawk circling over NYC, looking for breakfast.  The bird settles on a building and looks up and down Fifth Ave. &#8220;from the top of the food chain&#8221; and says to himself, &#8220;God, I love this town.&#8221;</p>
<p>After the chorus, comes this</p>
<p><i>I saw Joe Mitchell`s ghost on a downtown `A` train<br />
He just rides on forever now that the Fulton fish market`s shut down<br />
He said `they ain`t never gonna get that smell out of the water<br />
I don`t give a damn how much of that new money they burn`</p>
<p>Now hell`s kitchen`s Clinton and the bowery`s Nolita<br />
And the east village`s creepin` `cross the Williamsburg bridge<br />
And hey, whatever happened to alphabet city?<br />
Ain`t no place left in this town that a poor boy can go</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot to parse here, because it&#8217;s hard to say (from my perspective) where this song falls along the divide you have set up.  The image of the hawk suggests a deeper natural order that simultaneously defies and reinforces the human order.  Just like the food chain in nature, there&#8217;s an economic food chain, but it exists independently and in spite of the city.  The hawks will outlive any changes in real estate prices.</p>
<p>The invocation of Joe Mitchell (a <i>New Yorker</i> writer who glorified &#8216;old NY&#8217; in articles about McSorley&#8217;s and the fish market in the 1940s) as a ghost on the subway is interesting, too.  Mitchell is gone in body, but not spirit, and the ghost declares the same for the fish market.  </p>
<p>From what seems to be counternostalgic, the song moves into listing the name changes brought on by real estate agents and claims that there&#8217;s no place left for the poor in NYC, seemingly flipping over to an expression of nostalgia.</p>
<p>Despite this, Earle states in the liner notes, &#8220;The city hasn&#8217;t changed as much as real estate agents would have you believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I just thought of you and this post when I heard this song for the first time last night and thought you might want to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Waterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Waterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYCounternostalgia update: EL Doctorow&#039;s _Ragtime_ is another perfect example of a NYC historical novel that is, ultimately, counternostalgic. Pull it down and read the opening sequence. Emma Goldman is the disruptive force in what was, at first, a nostalgic glance backward. In fact, that opening sequence thematizes everything I tried (not so successfully) to say here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYCounternostalgia update: EL Doctorow&#8217;s _Ragtime_ is another perfect example of a NYC historical novel that is, ultimately, counternostalgic. Pull it down and read the opening sequence. Emma Goldman is the disruptive force in what was, at first, a nostalgic glance backward. In fact, that opening sequence thematizes everything I tried (not so successfully) to say here.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J- In your idealized future do you and (a cloned) Grace Kelly rule over an army of cockroaches that take over Manhattan and ultimately overrun the world?  That would be a totally rad future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J- In your idealized future do you and (a cloned) Grace Kelly rule over an army of cockroaches that take over Manhattan and ultimately overrun the world?  That would be a totally rad future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Zitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Zitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Lane, I have been thinking about this post quite a bit--and after your last comment, bw, marveling, too, at how you can post a few late-night &quot;random ramblings&quot; and make them sound so poetic and insightful. 

So, wait, what&#039;s the opposite of nostalgia? I think I tend to romanticize my future much moreso than I wax nostalgic about the past, and in fact I tend to forget about the good old days--unless, actually, you mean the alternate-reality past that I&#039;ve constructed in my head, the one in which I go back to junior high school as a smarter, less-terrified version of myself and become the coolest kid in the school. Is that mistalgia or some combination of being pathetic, delusional, and nostalgic (pathelugia?)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Lane, I have been thinking about this post quite a bit&#8211;and after your last comment, bw, marveling, too, at how you can post a few late-night &#8220;random ramblings&#8221; and make them sound so poetic and insightful. </p>
<p>So, wait, what&#8217;s the opposite of nostalgia? I think I tend to romanticize my future much moreso than I wax nostalgic about the past, and in fact I tend to forget about the good old days&#8211;unless, actually, you mean the alternate-reality past that I&#8217;ve constructed in my head, the one in which I go back to junior high school as a smarter, less-terrified version of myself and become the coolest kid in the school. Is that mistalgia or some combination of being pathetic, delusional, and nostalgic (pathelugia?)?</p>
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