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		<title>By: Ruben Mancillas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruben Mancillas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 06:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you got me.  Despite it being an Angel jersey and my relative youth in &#039;82 you&#039;re absolutely right about my being a less than serious Dodger fan to ever wear Jackson&#039;s # 44.

I would have the same reaction to any Laker &quot;fan&quot; who dared to wear the jersey of any Celtic player.

We&#039;ll have to go to a game sometime unless you strenuously disagree.  I&#039;ll try and not intrude upon your Zen experience and I promise to not squeeze into my offending tight polyester (jersey that is).

But Reggie is # 1 on your most hated players?  Who else is on that list?  I would have guessed that guys who did more damage to the Blue on a regular basis would rank higher, say Giants, division rivals, or at least National Leaguers.

Glad you were familiar with the Wallace tennis essay-I&#039;ll definitely give those two guys you mentioned a shot.  The only baseball book I&#039;ve read is the Kearns Goodwin memoir on growing up a Brooklyn Dodger fan.

And to my editor, thanks for clearing up my spammed comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you got me.  Despite it being an Angel jersey and my relative youth in &#8217;82 you&#8217;re absolutely right about my being a less than serious Dodger fan to ever wear Jackson&#8217;s # 44.</p>
<p>I would have the same reaction to any Laker &#8220;fan&#8221; who dared to wear the jersey of any Celtic player.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to go to a game sometime unless you strenuously disagree.  I&#8217;ll try and not intrude upon your Zen experience and I promise to not squeeze into my offending tight polyester (jersey that is).</p>
<p>But Reggie is # 1 on your most hated players?  Who else is on that list?  I would have guessed that guys who did more damage to the Blue on a regular basis would rank higher, say Giants, division rivals, or at least National Leaguers.</p>
<p>Glad you were familiar with the Wallace tennis essay-I&#8217;ll definitely give those two guys you mentioned a shot.  The only baseball book I&#8217;ve read is the Kearns Goodwin memoir on growing up a Brooklyn Dodger fan.</p>
<p>And to my editor, thanks for clearing up my spammed comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Wager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruben, thank you for your acknowledgement of the Prufrock reference, but I must disagree strenuously with your critique of baseball.  One of my favorite ways to watch baseball is at the park all by myself, with no one to distract me from intense concentration on what&#039;s going on on the field.  Each at bat, every pitch, while in itself perhaps tiny, becomes significant in taking its place in the larger pattern of the game, like grains of sand in a mandala.  The rhythms of baseball -- short bursts of action followed by lulls in which tension builds or recedes -- are fascinatingly meditative to me.

I certainly appreciate a fast-paced game of basketball, but its frenetic nature seems to me to be an overkill of spectacle.  Without the contemplative pauses of baseball -- between pitches , at-bats, and innings -- there&#039;s no space for real thought.  

Sure, I&#039;m embarrassed that conservative know-it-alls like George Will are equally fascinated by baseball, but have you ever read Roger Angell or Tom Boswell?  I highly recommend the latter&#039;s &lt;em&gt;How Life Imitates the World Series&lt;/em&gt;.  You&#039;ll never look at the sport in the same way.

That David Foster Wallace essay about tennis *is* one of the best essays on any sport I&#039;ve ever read.  Part of the reason I like it so much is that he not only addresses the sheer strength and raw power (um, another reference I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get) of pro tennis players, but he also delves into the intellectual aspects of the sport -- the head games, its similarities to chess, etc.

P.S. Can you really say you&#039;re a Dodger fan and at the same time proudly claim ownership of a Reggie Jackson jersey (from any team)?  His 3 home runs in game 6 of the 1977 WS and his dirty, sneaky, illegal break-up of the double play in game 4 of 1978 (both, of course, against the Dodgers) give him seat #1 in my pantheon of most-hated players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruben, thank you for your acknowledgement of the Prufrock reference, but I must disagree strenuously with your critique of baseball.  One of my favorite ways to watch baseball is at the park all by myself, with no one to distract me from intense concentration on what&#8217;s going on on the field.  Each at bat, every pitch, while in itself perhaps tiny, becomes significant in taking its place in the larger pattern of the game, like grains of sand in a mandala.  The rhythms of baseball &#8212; short bursts of action followed by lulls in which tension builds or recedes &#8212; are fascinatingly meditative to me.</p>
<p>I certainly appreciate a fast-paced game of basketball, but its frenetic nature seems to me to be an overkill of spectacle.  Without the contemplative pauses of baseball &#8212; between pitches , at-bats, and innings &#8212; there&#8217;s no space for real thought.  </p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;m embarrassed that conservative know-it-alls like George Will are equally fascinated by baseball, but have you ever read Roger Angell or Tom Boswell?  I highly recommend the latter&#8217;s <em>How Life Imitates the World Series</em>.  You&#8217;ll never look at the sport in the same way.</p>
<p>That David Foster Wallace essay about tennis *is* one of the best essays on any sport I&#8217;ve ever read.  Part of the reason I like it so much is that he not only addresses the sheer strength and raw power (um, another reference I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get) of pro tennis players, but he also delves into the intellectual aspects of the sport &#8212; the head games, its similarities to chess, etc.</p>
<p>P.S. Can you really say you&#8217;re a Dodger fan and at the same time proudly claim ownership of a Reggie Jackson jersey (from any team)?  His 3 home runs in game 6 of the 1977 WS and his dirty, sneaky, illegal break-up of the double play in game 4 of 1978 (both, of course, against the Dodgers) give him seat #1 in my pantheon of most-hated players.</p>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
		<link>http://www.greatwhatsit.com/archives/1429#comment-41340</link>
		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, Stella learned to become a baseball fan a couple of years ago during the great Red Sox - Yankees 7-game ALCS. She found baseball deadly boring for years, and then suddenly, with that series, the light switched on. We went to England that October, just after the Red Sox won game 7, and she was crushed to have to miss the World Series. In fact, as we were walking in the Lake District, she was searching for an Internet cafe to pop in and check the scores, I kid you not.

Now that I&#039;m not in Washington anymore, I don&#039;t think she&#039;s watched a single inning of baseball. But it was an exciting flirtation for both of us that fall, nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, Stella learned to become a baseball fan a couple of years ago during the great Red Sox &#8211; Yankees 7-game ALCS. She found baseball deadly boring for years, and then suddenly, with that series, the light switched on. We went to England that October, just after the Red Sox won game 7, and she was crushed to have to miss the World Series. In fact, as we were walking in the Lake District, she was searching for an Internet cafe to pop in and check the scores, I kid you not.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m not in Washington anymore, I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s watched a single inning of baseball. But it was an exciting flirtation for both of us that fall, nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Tim, I have discovered the joys of major-league baseball.  Being born an&#039; bred in L.A. has made me an automatic Dodger fan, and Vin Scully&#039;s voice will always remind me of carefree summer days, but now I understand what people are on about.  I really do enjoy watching the game from on high, suckin&#039; on a Dodger dog, his hands between my knees (hrm?) although I think I have a ways to go before I fully understand the intricacies of the narrative.  Grasshopper is learning, though.  Wax on, wax off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Tim, I have discovered the joys of major-league baseball.  Being born an&#8217; bred in L.A. has made me an automatic Dodger fan, and Vin Scully&#8217;s voice will always remind me of carefree summer days, but now I understand what people are on about.  I really do enjoy watching the game from on high, suckin&#8217; on a Dodger dog, his hands between my knees (hrm?) although I think I have a ways to go before I fully understand the intricacies of the narrative.  Grasshopper is learning, though.  Wax on, wax off.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben Mancillas</title>
		<link>http://www.greatwhatsit.com/archives/1429#comment-41338</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruben Mancillas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Dodger fan and follow the sport after Jeremy&#039;s fashion but baseball just isn&#039;t cool.

Look at the all the ways we try and talk around it.  Pastoral setting, cholestrol laden food, hanging out with friends, and no cheerleaders.  But the game itself?  I like the occasional dramatic confrontations between pitcher and hitter (don&#039;t have the picture of me in my Reggie jersey but I was there when the Angels clinched in 1982) but the rest of the game just doesn&#039;t work for me unless you&#039;re at the park and having the aforementioned extracurricular fun.

Not sure exactly what the problem is but here are some ideas: most of the guys who played baseball at my high school were jerks, George Will, the game&#039;s obsession with statistics and history, Barry Bonds, the way Dodger Stadium was built on top of seized land, Randy Johnson&#039;s mullet, and that George W. Bush was once the majority &quot;owner&quot; of the Texas Rangers.

Basketball = the best team sport.  Tennis = the best sport.

Check out David Foster Wallace&#039;s essay on pro tennis sometime, great stuff.

And yet, even after all of this complaining...if only the Dodgers could use some of that talent they&#039;re hoarding down in AAA and get one big bat to put in the middle of their lineup to go along with that incredible starting pitching they might finally win their first playoff series since that glorious run in 1988.

Tim, here&#039;s a shout out for that use of Eliot in the title.  Ask Jeremy, I can be touchy when not given due credit for such references.  

Have you and Jen subjected yourselves to the all you can eat experience in the right field pavillions yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Dodger fan and follow the sport after Jeremy&#8217;s fashion but baseball just isn&#8217;t cool.</p>
<p>Look at the all the ways we try and talk around it.  Pastoral setting, cholestrol laden food, hanging out with friends, and no cheerleaders.  But the game itself?  I like the occasional dramatic confrontations between pitcher and hitter (don&#8217;t have the picture of me in my Reggie jersey but I was there when the Angels clinched in 1982) but the rest of the game just doesn&#8217;t work for me unless you&#8217;re at the park and having the aforementioned extracurricular fun.</p>
<p>Not sure exactly what the problem is but here are some ideas: most of the guys who played baseball at my high school were jerks, George Will, the game&#8217;s obsession with statistics and history, Barry Bonds, the way Dodger Stadium was built on top of seized land, Randy Johnson&#8217;s mullet, and that George W. Bush was once the majority &#8220;owner&#8221; of the Texas Rangers.</p>
<p>Basketball = the best team sport.  Tennis = the best sport.</p>
<p>Check out David Foster Wallace&#8217;s essay on pro tennis sometime, great stuff.</p>
<p>And yet, even after all of this complaining&#8230;if only the Dodgers could use some of that talent they&#8217;re hoarding down in AAA and get one big bat to put in the middle of their lineup to go along with that incredible starting pitching they might finally win their first playoff series since that glorious run in 1988.</p>
<p>Tim, here&#8217;s a shout out for that use of Eliot in the title.  Ask Jeremy, I can be touchy when not given due credit for such references.  </p>
<p>Have you and Jen subjected yourselves to the all you can eat experience in the right field pavillions yet?</p>
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