Thursday open thread: Actual open thread edition

This is Web 2.0, people. Be ye producers of content and not consumers only.

56 responses to “Thursday open thread: Actual open thread edition”

  1. I miss the Thursday doctors. Is Cedric on official leave too? Are we down to Annie on a monthly rotation?

    Here’s to the day when exams and weddings are through and we finally get part 2 of Trixie’s narrative and more on the work lives (and/or bad habits) of Cedric and Farrell.

  2. Dave says:

    Did anyone see the Bill Moyers thing last night on the media and the runup to the Iraq invasion? Excellent show, frightening and infuriating content.

  3. Rachel says:

    I have never been a Roger Ebert fan, but the man is clearly a badass and I wish him well.

  4. Rachel says:

    By the way, can the doctors weigh in on this? The idea of women making sperm out of bone marrow is making my head spin.

  5. Dave says:

    Yes, good thoughts for Ebert. Shockingly, some peopleassholes online are actually making fun of his cancer-stricken appearance (link via an entirely too long thread on Unfogged).

  6. MF says:

    so I made a comment (unrelated to above) and it has disappeared into the ether. Where did it go?

  7. brooke says:

    herein lies the problem with the myth of the productive consumer! probably, the distribution of creators to consumers on this site is roughly how it is everywhere else in “web 2.0”

    besides, web2.0 is so 2005. these days all the cool kids are on web 3.0!

  8. Dave says:

    6: Outer darkness, preceding your soul, obvs.

  9. MF says:

    what are you saying about me, Dave?

  10. Jeremy says:

    ok, here’s a shameless friend-plug… for any east-coast devics fans, sara lov is playing a solo show tonight at union hall in brooklyn (she’s opening for Ola Podrida), beginning at 9:30. go see her if you get a chance. GWers parrish, scotty, steph, and i all went to see her a few weeks back and had a lovely time. you will too. (her set is somewhat short, but her new stuff is really great).

  11. Dave says:

    And brooke, there is no way we’re doing XML or any of that shit on this site. I don’t care that the cool kids are all doing it. It makes my head hurt.

  12. Dave says:

    I’m told that the bathrooms in Union Hall are great for having sex in.

  13. Jeremy says:

    wow, who, um… “told” you that, dave?

  14. Dave says:

    I have two sources on that one, actually.

  15. MF says:

    so, Dave… you mean I’m gonna suffer forever? How come no one told me that?

  16. brooke says:


    You can’t escape it, man. You’re already using XML for syndicating comments and entries.

    On an entirely unrelated note, I need new music in the worst way. Readers, please list what’s on your iPod/iTunes/Pandora Station/Whatever right now, and what’s in heavy rotation at the moment!

    Here’s mine:

    On now:
    1) The Junkyard Band (Sardines!)

    In heavy rotation
    1) Mr. Hudson & The Library
    2) Joy Division (I just watched 24 hour party people, so…)

    Bring it!

  17. MF says:

    OK… so I’m recreating the comment I made earlier.

    This was in the NY Post yesterday:

    IRAN’S VICIOUS DRESSTAPO HITS UNVEILED GALS WITH BARBARIC ‘BANISHMENT’ (If someone tells me how to create a link, I’ll link it)

    In the text of the article, the reporter calls the act a “harsh medieval measure,” which I found to be an offensive statement. I don’t support a country forcing women (and not men!!) to cover their heads. But, I also don’t like American reporters (even if they are writing for the NY Post) using words like “dresstapo.”

    Isn’t it the same as the French calling Americans primitive for requiring women to wear bikini tops at the beach?

  18. Dave says:

    Hijab = bikini top? Really? (I agree with you about “dresstapo,” although it’s kinda funny.)

  19. MF says:

    Dave, thank you for driving home my point.

  20. Dave says:

    No, I was trying to disagree with you. There are norms of modesty, and then there is making women cover their entire bodies on pain of banishment (or whatever — I didn’t see the article, and I wouldn’t really trust the Post’s reporting, but I can believe bad things happen to women in Iran who don’t wear the veil, or whose veils aren’t “modest” enough.) The French go topless on the beach, Americans don’t: it’s a small difference and worth discussing/making fun of the other culture over, but it seems quite different from making women cover their entire bodies whenever they’re in public or around men who aren’t close family members.

  21. MF says:

    Dave, actually I agree with you. I hate the idea that some women are being forced (with incredibly extreme consequences) to completely cover themselves. Modesty is defined by each culture and it comes in degrees. Americans, thankfully, enjoy a lot of freedom with dress. I’m glad I live here and not there.

    But doesn’t it bother anyone how disrepectful words like “dresstapo” are? (Even if they are funny?)

  22. Dave says:

    Oh, okay. I misinterpreted (and continue to misinterpret) your last sentence in 18. But yes, it seems we agree. Damn.

  23. lisa t. says:

    topless women unite!

  24. LP says:


    I’m all for that.

  25. Dave says:

    Sweet. TGW girl-on-girl action.

  26. LP says:

    This is the only time I’ve ever heard Dave sound like a frat boy.

  27. Dave says:

    You started it.

  28. Lisa Parrish says:

    Ha! Funny how Web 2.0 brings out the Discourse 1.0, or possibly 0.5, in us.

  29. Jeremy Zitter says:

    I’ve been listening to Dr. Dog’s Easy Beat, even if it is kinda freedom rock (I haven’t heard their new one yet), and Feist’s new one (The Reminder?) and Blonde Redhead’s new one (23?) as well.

  30. Stephanie Wells says:

    Feist siad that Midlake’s Roscoe is her favorite song, by the way.

  31. Dave says:

    By the way, the Bill Moyers program is now online at the link in 2. Highly, highly recommended.

  32. Tim Wager says:

    Am right now listening to Future Clouds & Radar’s double cd debut. If you like Elephant 6, Flaming Lips, Robyn Hitchcock, and The Beatles (w/some ELO tossed in), you just might like it. Also, Joanna Newsom has a sweet little 3-song EP out now with one new song and two live versions of earlier songs.

    I haven’t seen the Moyers show yet, but I’m sure that it’s good stuff. He’s always so solid, measured, and intelligent. I expect a call from my father soon, telling me I need to watch it. He’s a devotee.

  33. brooke says:

    I don’t care who started it, i’m finishing it (.) (.)


  34. MF says:

    double giggle

  35. Beth W. says:

    You’re looking for some awesome music? I’m going to shamelessly plug my brother and his website,, chock full of amazing tunes.

  36. i’ve been listening to a lot of stuff from 68-70. i recommend _the many sides of fred neil_, which includes “everybody’s talkin'” but has so much more stuff that’s really cool. my favorite one involves dolphins. i’ve also been grooving on smokey robinson and the miracles.

    as for recent stuff, i like four tet’s DJ Kicks mix. it’s one of the more ecclectic contributions to that series that i’ve heard.

  37. autumn says:

    I heard Bill Moyers interview on Fresh Air on Monday. Damn good interview. In it he said that at age twenty-one he got the job as Special Assistant to President Lynden Johnson by writing him a letter. I’m paraphrasing here, but he was saying that he believed that sitting down and writing words to one person (or in the case of the GW–many people) is a most powerful tool. Now, I’m a letter writer, but Bono has yet to ask me to join his team and organize any humanitarian projects and Arrested Development is off the air, so I’m not sure if that my power is as unadulterated.

  38. W2 says:

    Oh, Autumn, Bono asked you last night to join his team. Though it may have been hard to tell: there’s a fine line between pity and compassion and the Idol beg-a-thon did a middling job walking that line.

  39. hey brooke — back to the new music thing. did your stint as a bassist ever lead you to listen to new composers (by which i mean 20th century)? the latest new yorker has a piece by alex ross on esa-pekka salonen and the LA Philharmonic that’s sent me scrambling for some new stuff to download (as AR’s pieces and his blog routinely tend to do).

    i like the new feist, but i would, right? she’s had a hell of a lot of press lately.

  40. Jen says:

    I just skimmed (who has time to listen?) the new Cornelius – very euro, very minimal, very good.

  41. E. Tan says:

    i’ve been listening to this squirrel rap an updated version of wordsworth’s i wandered lonely as a cloud

  42. Miller says:

    I’ve also been listening to Dr. Dog. Their show at the Troubadour last month was energy packed and delightful. Great Northern’s Trading Twilight for Daylight (I think it officallly comes out in a couple of weeks) is simple, yet gorgeous. I also like Papercuts’ Can’t Go Back; Patrick Wolf’s Magic Position is the musical equivalent of one of those fun houses at carnivals; and Cyann & Ben’s Sweet Beliefs is pretty incredible.

  43. brooke says:


    i’m quite the traditionalist when it comes to classical music and jazz. well, i should say i’m a traditionalist until i hear something new and amazing and then i kick myself for not being more adventurous in my listening habits.

    when i trying to be a string bass player, i listened to lots of jazz, cello music (chamber stuff mostly), and some old simple arias that i could maybe play on the string bass. my favorites and heros were (and are) people like edgar meyer, ron carter, charles mingus (one of my favorite composers), etc.

    i’m going to check out your recommendations. in fact, thanks to everyone who submitted something. the only thing i’ve listened to yet was a bit of the comas, which i quite liked. i’ve heard a lot about feist, but my problem with her is when ever i hear her name, i think of the wrong feist, which just reminds me of grad school and sends me off on another listening path.

    one final recommendation i’ll float is for Wax Tailor, whose new album “Hope & Sorrow” is awesome from what I can tell…

  44. Stephanie Wells says:

    I just emailed that squirrel rap to my entire British Lit class from last semester. Fabulous! It made me have a spontaneous overflow of powerful feeling which I will surely recollect in tranquility.

  45. hey. let me throw out three more relating to bass lines and then one newer release that’s just plain cool.

    1. a cool bass line i’d never noticed before until i started in on this recent 68-70 kick. ccr’s “tonight.” really. i promise.

    2. my favorite bass discovery in the last year: henri texier — how did i never hear of him before? thanks to wfmu’s maria.

    3. i was pretty traditional (meaning old-school, pre-1900) too during my time in orchestras. (i never really played jazz bass — i was pretty much an orchestra person.) but henryk gorecki’s symphony no. 3 (1976) has an opening bass line that will blow you away. i probably owe that one to alex ross too,

    4. this amazing disc from max tundra, which i can only describe as abstract pop. i can’t stop listening to it. i think it’s a couple years old, but i just found it a couple weeks ago via one of the blogs we link to.

  46. Lilly says:

    i like the new Wilco album (out soon) and for the lonely James Yorkston (i guess he is considered alt folk… out of the UK) i saw him live recently and actually cried…i really like modest mouse new song dashboard

  47. Rachel says:

    I’m quite partial to the new Charlotte Gainsbourg.

  48. i’m quite partial to charlotte gainsbourg — esp in science of sleep.


  49. Stephanie Wells says:

    I was JUST listening to 5:55 and planning to bring it to record club! Oops, better make a new pick now.

  50. Robyn says:

    Currently addicted to Patrick Wolf…


    And stroopwafels.

  51. E. Tan says:

    sigh… french women.

  52. Kate says:

    Brooke: I like Eastmountainsouth. It goes with my Enigma and my Loretta McKeinnitt nicely.

  53. Damn it, this has nothing to do with Thursdays, but every time Carl Wilson comes back from the EMP Pop Conference in Seattle he makes me want to put in a proposal for a paper, even though my official field is early America.